It’s Absurd To Call Israel A Terrorist State

Backbencher March 21, 2013 4
It’s Absurd To Call Israel A Terrorist State

Stephen Hoffman rejects the simplistic notion of Israel as the perennial bad guy

To blame Israel for everything, saying it is the sole reason for the Arab-Israeli conflict, ignores the roles of Palestinian rejectionism making it harder to achieve peace. For instance no one told Mahmoud Abbas, the leader of the more moderate Fatah Group to refuse to talk to Israel for the past few years. Nobody told him to refuse to respond to former Israeli Prime Minister, Ehud Olmert’s offer in 2009, which offered a Palestinian state in the Gaza Strip and the West Bank and Jerusalem as its capital. Abbas did this all by himself and in doing so destroyed the chances of the long suffering Palestinian people the chance of a state. Nobody told Hamas who controls the Gaza Strip to allow and actively engage in firing over 8,000 rockets at Israel since 2005. Nobody told them to continue to call for Israel’s destruction and refuse to denounce its own charter, which quotes the old antisemitic forgery the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. Nobody tells the Palestinian leaders in Gaza to fund school books that call for the destruction of Israel and contain much antisemitism. This was all done by Palestinian leaders and has helped wreck the peace process and incite terrorism against Israel.

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Israel is one of the only stable and mature democracies in the Middle East, with a free press that often criticises the Government and an independent judiciary led by the Supreme Court, which time and again has shown it is not afraid to stand up and rule against the Government. Rather than being a terrorist state, Israel, throughout its existence, has had to frequently defend itself from terrorism. A terrorism, which as the Second Intifada showed indiscriminately targets Israeli civilians in nightclubs, buses, trains, cars, schools and restaurants amongst others. A terrorism, which as Hezbollah and Hamas’s rocket attacks on Israel show aims to cause maximum civilian deaths, whilst putting their own civilians in harms way by firing from civilian areas and using their own civilians as human shields. In doing so committing a double war crime. Consequently, to paint a nation, which itself is besieged by terrorism, as a terrorist
state is deeply wrongheaded.

Hamas and Hezbollah see life as cheap on all sides of the conflict. This is why, sickeningly, Hamas has been found – in both Operation Pillar of Defence in 2012 and Operation Cast Lead in 2009 – to fire from hospitals and even hide weapons caches under hospitals. Even
more disturbingly, in the last conflict in Gaza caused by constant rocket fire into Southern Israel, a rocket fired by Hamas killed a Palestinian child of 6 years old. By contrast Israel has spent money on Iron Dome and rocket shelters to avoid the loss of lives. It is only due to its commitment to the security of its inhabitants that more Israeli civilians have not died in recent years.

Additionally, Israel tries to avoid the loss of Palestinian lives. This is why that the deaths in Gaza were under 200 in Operation Pillar of Smoke and fire from an Israeli bomb rises into the air ove Gaza CityDefence, as Israel didn’t target civilians or people or personalities as such, except Ahmed Jabari, who was the commander of Hamas’s armed forces. It concentrated on terrorist hotspots. Furthermore, as it does in all conflicts, Israel sent warnings on the phone and in leaflets to Palestinian civilians before it launched attacks, to try and minimise casualties. Unfortunately, due to the way Hamas fights civilian deaths are unavoidable. Therefore, Hamas’s hands are caked in the blood of both Israeli and Palestinian civilians. Moreover, Israel has been allowing many loads of building materials into Gaza, the like of which we have never allowed before, since Operation Pillar of Defence. This is certainly not the actions of a terrorist state, rather one that sees the loss of lives on either side as a tragedy. To say due to its commitment to protect its citizens from terrorism that Israel is a terrorist state is wrong. Israel for instance has never given any money whatsoever to Islamic extremists, but is leading the fight against global terrorism financed by regimes like Saudi
Arabia and Iran.

binyamin netanyahuIt’s also important to note that Israel over time has shown it’s not extreme. They signed up to the Oslo Accords led by Yitzhak Rabin, to agree peace with the Palestinian people. They acted on this under both Olmert and Ehud Barak in 2000, when generous offers were made to create a Palestinian state. Israel acted on this, when in 2005, under the premiership of Ariel Sharon it pulled out of Gaza and the Northern West Bank. It showed its commitment to peace, through reaching peace deals with Egypt and Jordan.

Even under Prime Minister Netanyahu, a person who is not to my liking politically, it froze settlement building for 10 months in 2010, in order to try and kick start negotiations with the Palestinians. Indeed, in his Bar Ilan Speech in 2009, Netanyahu committed himself to the two state solution, something he affirmed a few weeks ago, as well as talking to the Palestinian leaders who do not call for Israel’s destructions without preconditions. This is something I support. Is Israel perfect? No. Do I support settlement building in the West Bank? No. Do I think Israel’s leaders could do more for the peace process? Yes. Do I think they are solely to blame for the current failure of the peace process? Certainly not. Finally, to respond to the accusation, do I think Israel’s a terrorist state? For all the reasons I’ve outlined above, If Israel’s a terrorist state then I’m the Queen of Sheba!

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  • Stephen Lee

    This is an excellent blog, which highlights that Israel is not the Devil in human format, as many would like us to believe.

  • http://www.avrammeitner.com/ Avram Meitner

    I lost track of the nonsense in this article by the end of the first paragraph. I’m not even sure it’s worth fisking, but…

    “For instance no one told Mahmoud Abbas, the leader of the more moderate Fatah Group to refuse to talk to Israel for the past few years.”

    He hasn’t refused, he just hasn’t agreed to Netanyahu’s extreme preconditions such as the suspension of international law.

    “Nobody told [Hamas] to continue to call for Israel’s destruction and refuse to denounce its own charter, which quotes the old antisemitic forgery the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.”

    They don’t. Their charter was abandoned as irrelevant years ago. The platform on which they were elected never even mentioned Israel. Compare this to the Likud charter for example, which calls for Palestine to be wiped off the map;

    “Rather than being a terrorist state, Israel, throughout its existence, has had to frequently defend itself from terrorism.”

    Which is only true of you define “terrorism” as “what they do to us, rather than what we do to them”.

    “Consequently, to paint a nation, which itself is besieged by terrorism, as a terrorist state is deeply wrongheaded.”

    I agree it’s not a useful designation. Israelis *are* the victim of terrorist attacks. But Israel also perpetrates terrorist attacks.

    “Additionally, Israel tries to avoid the loss of Palestinian lives.”

    A statement in clear contrast to the documentary record. During the Gaza massacre for example, the death toll of 1400 comprised of 1000 civilians, mostly women and children.

    “Moreover, Israel has been allowing many loads of building materials into Gaza, the like of which we have never allowed before, since Operation Pillar of Defence.”

    How many lorry loads are required? How many are let through? What right does Israel have to restrict them at all?

    “It’s also important to note that Israel over time has shown it’s not extreme.”

    Quite the opposite.

    “They signed up to the Oslo Accords led by Yitzhak Rabin, to agree peace with the Palestinian people.”

    Netanyahu is on video bragging about how he undermined them and made them unworkable.

    “…Prime Minister Netanyahu…froze settlement building for 10 months in 2010, in order to try and kick start negotiations with the Palestinians.”

    It’s a myth. It never happened. There was a minor decrease in the rate at which Palestinian land was stolen and illegally colonised. There was never a moratorium.

    “Indeed, in his Bar Ilan Speech in 2009, Netanyahu committed himself to the two state solution”

    The Likud charter, the document upon which they were elected expressly forbids a two state solution,

    Like it or not, the “solution” is there for the taking. The UN has recognised Palestine along the 67 lines. There is also the Saudi peace plan about which Israel refused to speak.

    Israel has only to observe international law. It’s not complex. It’s not controversial. Netanyahu’s extreme precondition that international law is suspended is one of the largest obstacles to the two-state solution.

    The term “terrorist state” has little meaning. Does Israel commit acts of terrorism? Of course. Does it suffer acts of terrorism? Of course.

  • http://www.facebook.com/stephen.hoffman2 Stephen Hoffman

    “Whoever is killed by a Jew receives the reward of two martyrs, because the very thing that the Jews did to the prophets was done to him.

    “The Jews are the most despicable and contemptible nation to crawl upon the face of the Earth, because they have displayed hostility to Allah.

    “Allah will kill the Jews in the hell of the world to come, just like they killed the believers in the hell of this world.

    “The Jews kill anyone who believes in Allah. They do not want to see any peace whatsoever on Earth.”

    (Sermon delivered by ‘Atallah Abu Al-Subh, former Hamas minister of culture, which aired on Al-Aqsa TV, April 8, 2011, translation by MEMRI).

    Or some Holocaust denial: The lie of the Zionist Holocaust crumbles with countless holocausts committed by the Zionists in Beit Hanoun, al-Fakhoura school and other places in Palestine.”

    (Hamas leader Mahmoud al-Zahar

    Now whatever your opinion on Israel- surely you cannot defend Holocaust denial- promoted by Hamas.

    Just to remind you that Hamas is an active terror group- who currently is attempting to fire numerous rockets into Israel’s, here’s Khaled Meshaal calling for suicide bombings:

    “This is the time for the third uprising… Resistance will continue through suicide missions.”

    (Hamas leader-in-exile Khaled Mashaal, Damascus, Syria, December 27, 2008).

    I could go on to remind you of the vile nature of Hamas that you appear to be either forgeting or wilfully ignoring, but I think I’ve made my point on this. If you still want to defend Hamas after this then that’s your perogative, but don’t expect many people to think you have any credibility on this subject if you do!

    Also in case you’ve forgotten-and I’m not a supporter of Netanyahu, but I am a supporter of the truth. Netanyahu, leader of likud since 2009 has made it clear he supports the two state solution- since his Bar Ilan speech on the matter. He again made this clear during the recent press conference with Barack Obama. As Likud’s leader he certainly wasn’t calling for the Palestinian State’s destruction.

    Also why do you star Israel *are* the victims of terror attacks in a way that appears to belittle their sufferings.

    On Operation Cast lead, no accurate numbers could be made but the Goldstone report, which I’m assuming your basing your numbers on has been shown to be a total fraud. Indeed, Sir Richard Goldstone who wrote the report has even disowned it, admitting that the figures he got came solely from figures from the Palestinian side and in particular Hamas. Also, one has to remember that during Operation Cast Lead Hamas even hid in civilian clothes, so some of those classified as civilians were nothing of the sort.

    He did freeze settlement building- its as simple as that. I’m sorry you have an aversion to the facts- that don’t fit into your worldview of Israel as the bad guy.

    When it comes to the Oslo accords- when exactly did I mention Netanyahu there. Netanyahu did oppose the Oslo accords at the time, but every Israeli prime minister since Rabin has in effect spoken in support of them, culminating in Netanyahu’s support for the two state solution, as mentioned above.

    The Saudi peace plan which you refer to was a non starter for one simple fact, it called for the return of all Palestinian refugees to Israel. This in practice would lead to the destruction of Israel and also ignores the fact that 800,000 Jews from Arab lands including my grandparents from Iraq were kicked out in 1948 for the simple reason they were Jews.

    As I made clear in my article I support the two state solution- based on 67 lines, so I don’t disagree with you if that’s what you support. I do have a problem though with your narrative saying that Israel is the sole reason for the failure of the peace process. Its simply factually incorrect and ignores the role of Palestinian leaders.

    This article if it wasn’t made clear was responding to a previous article where Israel was called a terorrist state. I was given a right of reply, I used it. Oh by the way returning to the first sentence.. its quite funny that you say my article is full of nonsense, when you go on a rant after this sentence, which has more hot air in it then a hot air baloon and has more nonsense contained it it then Ed Ball’s plans to the UK economy.

  • Truth

    Israel is an apartheid state that deliberately murders children. The writer of this article should have the class to criticise its flaws instead of defending them.

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